My home at 19254 Horizon View Dr. Ramona CA is a total loss it has burned to the ground. Does anyone know if the witch fire was caused by another downed SDG&E power line? If you remember it happened a couple of months ago and was cought in the nick of time.
I want to come home. I live in Ramona proper. There is no fire threatening my house and I know its still standing. I think Ramona is still closed because its easy to keep 4 roads closed. Everyone else in San Diego is able to go back to their houses. At the very least tell us when we can come back.
Once evacuated I been homeless and run all over the county by other evacuations.
Next time I either stay home or go to Vegas.
Cranky and tired of sleeping on the ground, bout ready to run the police blockade, at least if they throw me jail i get a bed.
Can anybody tell me if North Arabians off of southerland dam rd made it throught the fire. I want to make sure everybody and all the horses made it throught this. May God speed his love to everybody in the fires. Have a Blessed Day, Nashville CF
My father lives in Ramona Terrace Estates. Does anyone know if that area is okay? We live in Maui and are not getting much news. Any information would be much appreciated.
I live in Las Vegas now, however, I grew up in Ramona. Some members of my family still reside there.. I would like to express my sincere sympathy for all the citizens of Ramona. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone. God Bless and keep safe.
Hey I am sorry to say that North Arabians DID get caught in the fire and it is gone. My friend's mom used to take care of those horses and was at a horse show out of state where the mother saw the owners of the ranch and they confirmed it was gone. They said they only lost a couple of horses.
My Dad lives on Orange Ave. off of Pile Street back by the avocado farm- I know Pile didn't make it, does anyone know anything about Orange?
I want to thank this newspaper for the absolutely phenomenal job it is doing getting some info out about Ramona. I lived in Ramona for many years and have a lot of family there. I will always consider Ramona my home, and my heart and prayers go out to everyone affected by these fires.
What astonishes me is that there is not a damage list for Ramona. Wasn't Ramona the first to be evacuated? Every other city/town/pothole has a list. Smaller towns and larger towns have at least started their lists. I see from news on this site there are people (elected officials) in Ramona that have not evacuated. Why haven't they compiled a list or at least attempted to until now. RB, Poway, Escondido, etc have had lists for days. Very frustrating! Thanks so much for this site and the paper. If it weren't for it, I don't think we would have half the info we do - good job!
If Ramona had multi million dollar homes like other areas affected by the fire there would be more TV coverage and the elected official (Dianne Jacob) would be doing more to get people back in.
Other areas that have more fire damage and just as many potential hot spots and yet they are home tonight. Why? Money!
The fault is not the local fire officials or police officers - it is out of their hands. Blame the politicians.
Does anybody know if 415,430 & 443 Pile street are OK????? Thanks for the info posted here and for the Sentinel updates. I have moved to N.C. and have all my friends and people of Ramona in my prayers. Teresa
Ramona does not have enough water or power to support 30,000 people. That is the issue with repopulating, not the fires. There is surprisingly little damage to most of Ramona. The Cities are posting addresses for losses but not the unincorp areas of County, maybe ask Dianne Jacobs to start a list? Many people left sprinklers on when they left and that is just draining the system. Why all the SDG&E questions, does SGDG&E control the santa ana winds now? What IF a power line was knocked down and started a fire? If the wind knocks a tree onto your house are you going to blame the tree? When The Water district gets their tanks and pipes full again and tests the water, when the hot spots are out and elec is restored to a majority of homes, then I'm sure they will let people back in. Enjoy your hot shower and try to relax tonight :) Elm had some damage. as did Cedar near elm. If you had a relatively new house with space around you are probably okay, If you had a lot of clutter, trees and outbuildings with an older house maybe not so lucky. Newer houses on the so side of Orange are okay. Older home on Orange with an large shop in front and separate family/bar room to the right is gone. Schwetmans(sp) house is still there.
I just saw that homes on Green Valley Truck Trail were destroyed. Does it stand to reason if we know homes are destroyed we know which homes? Little Help????? Pretty please.
PS - I saw pile street info on the sentinal main page. I think it was reported yesterday.
Can anyone tell me the extent of the damage on Cedar Street? Are all of the houses gone or just the one shown on CBS? (To those folks,I am so very sorry for the loss of your Home.)
My Mother's Home on Highlander Drive is still standing, We were rejoicing until we saw the CBS report, and became worried for the Taber's. To The Scherer's thank you for easing my mind.
My dad lives off of Haverford and Pine, right off Los altos de cerro, his house is standing with three others in the area, the others have been destroyed. He said it's unbeliveable the damage. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone.
Is a small unincorporated list, small but you might find it helpful. There are 13 Ramona addresses listed.
I hear what you are saying about the water and that is a very valid point and probably true. Just wondering why they don't day that then. I read on the main page that the Supervisor said the reason for the continued closure was because of hot spots. It did note some people have their own wells; why couldn't they come in.
Just posing some thoughts.
The good news is that delays into homes is not a bad thing compared to the potential of life loss.
From what I can gather the Canyon survived pretty well. I manage a camp (http://www.campfeatherstone.org) which is at mile marker 8.5 (coming from Lakeside.) We sustained very light fire damage (none to buildings) and some minor wind damage but at least the camp itself was not burned out like in 2003.
Any damage on Weekend Villa? Erica and Joe, if you're there, answer me please. Anyone with any information I would greatly appreciate a response :) Hope all is well with everyone! Irene Esper
Irene, My friend Zack Espinoza live on Rancho Villa and Joe Espinoza(Zack's Father) made it up there today, no homes on the streets surrounding them were loss, the only stuff that burned were the Giant Oak trees surrounding that area.
Eileen did the fire make it to Air Mail Lane? I believe the closest it got to there was Norther part of Mt.Woodson but even that fire is out now. Im pretty confident in stating that Air Mail lane was untouched.
I am currently in Colorado with my boyfriend from Ramona. It's been hard trying to confirm information on the status of his parents house on El Paso St. We heard that it is still standing. Bless everyone in Ramona during these hard times. And thanks to the Sentinel for their constant coverage. The news channels don't give much information on Ramona.
Huge thanks to Ramona Sentinel for their WONDERFUL job keeping us up-to-date with what is going on with Ramona. We are getting extremely frustrated with the lack of information/coverage of Ramona's damage but Ramona Sentinel has been a Godsend.
Does anyone have any news of the old folks/retirement home Little Iowa? The address is 26330 Hwy 78 and there are three homes lined up side by side with one confirmed down. Any info greatly appreciated.
I dont live in Ramona any more, but used to live on Rangeland Road off of Highland Valley road - at the end in the hills...I saw some of the footage from the airport and I cant imagine that the house I lived in as a kid can still be there- any news from that area?
I used to live in Ramona and now live in the Inland Empire but still have many family members there. I know for myself, after the mandatory evacuations, it was very difficult to get ANY information about Ramona. Our families have been evacuated from site to site and every TV channel that shows all of the other areas (especially RB) and all of the web-site show the lists of all of the destroyed homes (especially RB) but nothing on Ramona. Now, most of the areas that started burning after Ramona, residents are able to go back home even if they have "Hot Spots".....I understand about the water situation but how about a little understanding for all of the people who have been sleeping on the ground or in their cars and have been living on nerves just wanting to know if they even have a house to go home too. Just very fustrated on the coverage or lack there of on Ramona.
I just left that ranting comment but I also wanted to make sure to tell you all ....."GREAT JOB" You are one of the only sites that is providing any info on Ramona
Cal Fire did alot of back-fires in the grassland near the airport. Depending if your old home was in the grassland or more near sagebrush and more difficult to defend.
At the base of that small mountain out off of Pile and Orange the fire department cleared a fire break during the cedars fire- does anyone know about the homes back in there? There is a plant nursey on that mountain, I think, way back off of Orange.
It was over that hill, 18759 Rangeland- Im not sure who lives there now... my parents built it in the early 80's- I know there is new development in the hill as well now but on the fire maps it was clearly in the 'middle' of things... thanks for the info!
I found this list of destroyed homes on another area of the site:
448 Pile Street 534 Pile Street 744 Pile Street 918 Pile Street 526 Pile Street 428 Washington
Some of these are within a half mile of my relative's home at 2040 Pamo Road. If anyone gets into the area to check specific homes, please add this to the list of ones to check...thank you very much.
I haven't lived in Ramona for almost 17 years but still very much consider it my home town. My Dad lives off of Haverford and Pine and I am happy to say that his house is fine. Unfortunately a few of his neighbors were not so lucky. I want to thank D. Shaw for being our eyes during this nightmare. My thoughts are with you all.
Thanks Sentinel for giving us some info on our neighborhood. It is truly appreciated.
Does someone know if the grove across the street from Solida del Sol is still there? The 4.5 mile marker on Highland Valley Rd. My home is in the middle of it.
I have to comment that the Kathy Finley person on the 'headlines' page is making ridiculous, SELFISH comments! The fire and police authorities in San Diego county are working as hard as humanly possible. Volunteers are donating time, and Finley had the nerve to say that she feels like a refuge!!! Really! A refuge?! I am sure that MANY refugees would be more that happy to have safe evacuation sites available to them! Being away from your home and in an uncomfortable environment is just that, UNCOMFORTABLE. Finley is safe, her home is probably safe and she has the nerve to complain, cause chaos and put other people in danger by her ignorance. I hope that the people of Ramona get to return to their homes safely, in an efficient and controlled manor. Shame of you Kathy Finely, who are you planning for?!
HI! I live in Seattle right now but I grew up in Ramona and had a BEAUTIFUL horse ranch on highland valley there till we sold it like... 2 yrs ago.
Ramona is my happy place, my home, my childhood, and I started crying when I heard it was on fire. No one understands here in Seattle- they are all so removed from it. If anything has happened to my old house (which I plan on re-buying someday!) I'd never be the same lol
I'm coming home to ramona next week to try and help out, and to check out the damage.
I heard north Mt. Woodson is pretty burned up.
I'm SO FRUSTRATED by lack of coverage of Ramona I could scream. And it's not like we DONT have multi-million dollar homes. I lived in between like... 20! Someone should be slapped.
I found the most info on Ramona here on this page than in all 3 days of checking the net and tv every five minutes!!!!
From what I have been reading, it seems like the water officals are working as hard as possible to get the system up...
If I remember right, Ramona is at the 'end of the line' as far as water goes- and if they were pulling every drop out for fire fighting that is going to stir up ALOT of crap in the system... and the last thing anyone needs right now is a case of Ecoli 0157H7!
In addition to that stirring up... likely many people left pipes running in gardens etc... with the strong draw of water used for fire fighting thats going to pull alot of that water BACK into the system...
If people with wells start heading back into town, stores might start re-opening and using that water!
I can see the logic pretty clearly of not letting anyone back in yet! (not that that makes it any easier...)
Eileen Highley, I live next door to Steve and Marilyn Kahle. Some people in our neighborhood stayed put through this whole ordeal and said our properties are all untouched, thankfully.
mt.woodson is okay, pray that the winds don't come up tonight. Was pretty touch and go,the helios and planes were bombing most of the day. will tell more later if anything changes
In the last 6 months my father and my husband have died. Now I have been waiting for 4 anxious days to find out if my home has been burned to ashes. Please People!!! Lets put things into the right perspective... we are tired, hungry, and doing without (information and the comforts of home) BUT ... there have been MANY brave souls out there risking their lives to save us and our properties. Can't we take the time to stop whining and say a heart felt thankyou?!? I CAN ... THANK YOU ALL
My husband went into through Vista ramona and said how unbelievably close how the fire came right up to properties and commented what a heck of a good job the firefighters did saving all of our homes. we should be proud and thankful that we have this wonderful people protecting us and our property and deal with this minor inconvenience, because it could have been a lot worse. God Bless Us All!
Does anyone have info on Deerben? Off of Rancho Santa Teresa? My friends were evacuated on Sunday and are with their horses in Del Mar and have not gotten any information about the area at all.
Thanks to The Ramona Sentinel for keeping us informed about our town. Just when we're feeling forgotten - we came upon this site. I just wish we were being told the truth about why we aren't allowed back in. Obviously it's the water issue. Over 30,000 people without water could quickly create a health hazard. I know people are working day and night to restore what we need and we appreciate it. Thank goodness for friends/neighbors who stayed behind and are now looking after our home.
NEW: RAMONA HOME INFORMATION 7:20 p.m. - Residents of the Oak Tree Ranch community in Ramona who would like information on their homes are being asked to call (760) 789-1382. Approximately 54 homes have been destroyed there.
Above me: I am not sure who makes the decision to allow reentry, mist likely it is a committee. Jerry Sanders has the final word in SD but Ramona I believe is unincorporated so I am not sure who has the final say.
We aren't being let back because: 1. There is a fire still burning on Mt. Woodson where I have no clue because the stupid news people ain't reporting it. Been screaming at them all day. I guess because we ain't the beautiful people of Del Mar, Rancho Bernardo, or Rancho Santa Fe, our fire isn't important enough. Geez repeat of the Cedar Fire, Scripps Ranch this and Scripps Ranch that, oh those poor people in Scripps Ranch. UGH!!!
2. For those not paying attention, the power to a pump station for Ramona Water was burned up so they have to bring in a huge honkin generator to run that pump. It takes a while to re pressurize the whole system again. But then again the idiots who are washing down their homes and car doesn't help either.
3. ans there suppose to be a power outage there too??? Where I have electricity because I get my answering machine.
So theres are the reasons.
With that said, HEY DON G. whose homes burned on Sky Valley besides the Sky Valley Internet guy. I know too many people on that road.
Finally, THANK YOU Sentinel!!!! I am sorry I only thought to check you guys out today. Great local news.
I was just watching the news and they were talking about Rancho Bernardo - the recommendation to allow reentry rests solely with the Fire Chief. I would assume the same is true for Ramona. For RB the chief makes the recommendation to Sanders, not sure who he will make the recommendation to for Ramona.
I hope that helps. Who is the fire chief that makes that decision - I have no idea.
My wife's brother and sis in law live in Ramona. The information from ramonasentinel.com has been appreciated. We visit Ramona regularly and are dealing with the Santiago fire here at home. Everyone stay safe and kudos to the brave firefighters and those who decided to stay to protect their homes.
CAL is the only department that can allow us access to Ramona/SDCEA. I just got off the phone with CHP and they advised me that the Fire Marshall of the Wildcat Canyon area ordered for no one to be allowed up Wildcat Canyon until tomorrow morning except for Barona reservation residence. They also advised me that Ramona is currently open for repopulation but the roads into Ramona from all directions are closed due to hot spot activity along these routes(Ridiculous).The CHP even joked that it was kind of pointless and I should retrieve my Ultra Light Helicopter to return home. I would almost pay with a few others to rent a chopper and a pilot into Ramona. I even repeated that line to the officer to make sure I was not incorrect in my understanding. One piece of good news was the officer telling me that the Fire Marshall would have Wildcat canyon opened in the morning.(I still won't count on it)
For those of you that are NOT politically knowlegeable, a lot of rhetoric gets slug... but keep in mind, it's the ACTION that speaks louder than words. Sadly, Military (Federal) are willing to help Cal Fire but the two agencies can't get their act together.Ergo, good intentions Congressmen, but "Where's the beef"? This governmental infighting is a Deja Vu of 4 years ago. If it weren't for our tight knit community, more houses would've been burnt. Thanks Ramona, for sticking it out.
Its different than an outage, because the lines are drained. In an outage the lines would still be full, chlorinated and pressurized...
In this case the lines have been at very low pressure- and the pull on the lines disrupts the natural layer of bacteria/deposits on the insides of the pipes - stirs up all kinds of stuff that bacteria can cling to and make chlorine less effective...
There is also the backflow possibility...if there is a malfunctioning toilet of hose on the ground and a fire fighter is down the line sucking up water- it can suck whatever that hose or whatever into the system because the pressure gets reversed... this has happened with chemicals, bacteria etc. in the past.
http://www.nobackflow.com/pnw-awwa.htm
They need to get the pressure back in the lines, check for contamination and let chlorine sit in them to kill any bacteria-
1) thank you to the firefighters for working incredibly difficult conditions to tame this fire and protect our community and our homes
2) thanks to the sentinel for providing the best information throughout this ordeal. keep up the excellent work!
3) public officials are doing the right thing by evacuating. they have nothing to gain by keeping you from your home and it has nothing to do the value of your home. it is just too easy to scapegoat them. it doesn't matter if you have a well or not. they have determined it is not safe for you and it is their job to protect you. i doubt you want to be breathing that air right now, anyway. officials are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. have a little patience.
4) wish you all the best of luck with your home and hope that when we all return, you will help our community rebuild.
5) thanks to everyone for sharing information about what they do know on the ground. cheers to scherers and the other level-headed folks.
6) stay calm and enjoy the fact you are alive and well.
I am somewhat suprised at the amount of grumbling. I am so very grateful to everyone who was involved in fighting the fire who kept our home from being burned. I am so grateful that so many of my friends and neighbors in the community I grew up in, will be able to go home to the homes THEY grew up in.
We are are blessed to live in a community which came together in front of the eyes of the world singing, helping, giving, and loving. I would hate for others to see Ramona as a selfish community because of the grumbling of a couple people. These have been anxious days for everyone, lets not compound it by complaining about how things are being handled. The people handling things are working tirelessly to get us all back home, and to make sure that those who can't get home will be taken care of.
Every bit over water used is one less gallon for the air tankers at Ramona Airport to mix with retardent. If your home is standing, don't be the cause of someone else's burning because of your use of the water, or complain that they aren't letting you come home because of it. They are trying to protect homes and families. Be an example.
Thank you so much to the Ramona Sentinel, for keeping so many people informed about what is happening in Ramona.The local and national news just isn't saying much about Ramona.
I used to live near the airport and went to Ramona High. I live in Northern California now. Its so sad to see the fires in the area, but especially in Ramona. We used to live near the airport off main street. it looks like that area has faired ok, but would appreciate any info on that particular area. Our home was located on Carlin St. God Bless everyone, and I hope you will be able to return home soon. Be patient and try to stay calm while you wait to be allowed to return. It is for your safety and the safety of emergency personnel.
www.ramonarelief.com Just thought I would let everyone know! I live in Colorado but grew up in Ramona and all of my family is still there. My brother stayed in town and said although it is devastating at least many survived. Thanks for starting this page I have been staring at the computer for days trying to get infor about Ramona. Sara ANderson
I was in Brazil on business when the Witch Creek fire started. My wife called me in a frantic mood, after what we experienced in 2003 with the Cedar fire. She evacuated Sunday night, and I caught the 1st flight home on Monday, arriving Tuesday into Lindbergh field. We live in Mt Woodson and it has been impossible to get any updates on the actual situation there. Now just to give an update on the power of technology....my wife bought me a Slingbox last Christmas so that I could watch the Chargers games while away from San Diego on business (most often internationally). From Brazil, all Sunday night I was watching the local news stations in San Diego on my Slingbox via the internet while in my hotel room in Brazil. Monday morning I went to breakfast and when I came back to my room, I could no longer connect to the Slingbox at my house via the internet. I then called our home phone, and when our answering machine did not answer I had that empty feeling in my stomach. I have had not reason to believe that my home is still standing until a few minutes ago when I read in this blog that power was back on in Ramona. So guess what, I took a chance that I might be able to connect to my Slingbox from a hotel in La Jolla, and VOILA!! it came on. That can only mean that at least my master bedroom is still there, and hard to believe that COX communications came alive and everything rebooted. Sorry about being a nerd here, but with the lousy network coverage of Ramona, my Slingbox is my only reason to believe that I still have a home.
Thank you Ramona Sentinel. Now if we can get the local network stations to give Ramona some proper coverage and if we can get back into our neighborhoods we all will have more reason to believe that the worst is over.
We just visited family in Ramona in Sept. and are so sad about the fire and all it has caused for the kindly people of Ramona and elsewhere in California. We live in New York but are following the news constantly and hoping everyone stays safe and that your homes and businesses are intact. People here are very concerned, and ask one another if we have family/friends affected by the fires. Good luck, we hope you get back to your homes and lives very soon. Chin up, stay feisty and know that from where we sit, you all look courageous and resilient. Our heartfelt condolences to those who have lost homes/ creatures you love. We are pulling for you.
Mindy W. - I also want to thank the firefighters for working so tirelessly in our community. Thank you to the folks out there doing animal rescue and to the Diamond D and Elstons for feed. Thank you to the stores that were able to stay open to help us with supplies. Some of you might not realize that these people helping out the community have had losses as well, from burned homes, lost property and animals that may not have survived. The majority of Ramonans have pulled together through this tragady. I know there are alot more people we need to thank. Let's remember to be thankful for what we do have and to help our neighbors in need
All residents of Ramona are frustrated and tired just as my family and I are. Be grateful our town does not have extensive lists to publish.
Our local officials have nothing to gain by keeping us out longer than needed. They have everything to lose if we return and the fire returns, we are sick from contaminated water or we experience brown outs due to excessive drain on the lines.
For those that have lost their homes, businesses or both as well as those who lost pets or income due to the evacuation, you have my sympathy and hope that you have a quick recovery. I am certain that all Ramonans feel for you.
I have heard stories of those in SOCAL that lost houses and businesses in the Cedar Fire 4 years ago and lost it all again in the Witch Creek Fire.
For those of you losing patience, learn to deal with it. Our laws give the elected leadership, fire and police officials the authority to maintain the evacuation order until the situation warrants our return.
I have evacuated my family and am working at Camp Pendleton helping Marines prepare to return to Iraq. Several thousand of them are dealing with this fire situation while they continue their training as best they can and, for many, it will not be their first tour. Our fire fighters, police officers, medical personnel and other volunteers are also dealing with evacuation and loss. I do not hear complaints from any of these people; learn from them. Be glad that you are alive and safe and waiting to return to a home that is still standing. Many are not so fortunate in California right now.
My thanks to all the emergency, police and fire personnel that helped save Ramona.
Alice Street is fine. El Paso and Ramona St is fine. Be encouraged, I just got back from assisting feed community workers at my church Mountain View. All of the restaurants in town have been closed due to un-healthy water. Mountain view has its own water source and been cleared to cook. It is the only place for the workers to get a hot meal, coffee all night and a clean bathroom. Many Many, Many, deputies and military are patrolling and guarding Ramona for you until you can return. Most of us have not had a shower for days. We are using our ashen black pool water to flush toilets. We ALSO pray that the water can be back soon! Again, it is not RMWDs fault that the pumps burned and people left their water running. They are doing the best they can to fix everything. Trust me the police and military want you to come home too so they can go home to their families :)
Old Ramona used to be proud and loyal. We stuck together. We all knew each other and news traveled by each other. We had to put up a stop sign so people would know the town was here. This is kind of the same thing: news is by "word of mouth", the "flat-landers" don't know we are up here, BUT ... the pride and loyalty have been replaced by belly aching and "Ramona Proper" vs. "Country Mistakes". We are all in this together. No one is against us. Everyone wants the same thing. To be happy, and A home to go home to. Please, we are all tired, hungry, scared. We need answers, rest. But what we need most ... is each other.
as we return to our community in the coming days, i implore those of us that luckily escaped a personal tragedy to offer help to our neighbors. if you have the space - a spare room, an rv, a campsite, use this site's and/or another's to share that with our less-lucky neighbors. on the home page here, there is link to post availability of resources. we are in this together, and I hope we remember we have a special community that knows how to pull together and help one-another. i know this was my attraction to Ramona and hope we can continue in that tradition.
By the way most neighborhoods have a rebel and if a horse is there and you are not, this is Ramona....we are probably feeding it. If you are concerned, maybe you were off the hill and couldn't get in to get animals, I am sure someone here would be happy to check or we will ask one of the numerous officers to check for you.
I am so glad this forum is here! My husband and I are still here in Ramona. Thankfully so. Many of our friends evacuated as they were told to on Sunday night expecting it to be for a day or two. We are feeding some of their horses and giving updates on their homes. For the person concerned about Handlebar Lane, we are on feeding at Vorhees, and Handlebar seems just fine. No electricity though, fire ran on the North side on the runway and didn't make it to the grasslands on this end. For Haverford and Elm, the nursery is wiped out, some houses on the bend of Pamo, barns and outbuildings on Haverford and Elm that had some beatiful boats and tractors are gone but the houses seem to be in tact. Fire went through the brushy middle of the ball fields and destroyed some houses further up on Elm. It is definitly heart wrenching to see what has happened.
Hi All, if you are tired and frustrated of being kept out in the dark for this long on when we can come back home, and if there even is a home to come back to, then maybe we can all put some heat under our elected officials to help mobilize more attention to Ramona, and hopefuly help resolve our situation sooner than later.
Please take the time to e-mail Diane Jacob, Second District Supervisor; and ask her to please have her team give us more concreate information on what has happend in Ramona, what homes have been lost, and an ETA on when we will be able to return to Ramona.
Here is the link to her site: http://www.co.san-diego.ca.us/cnty/bos/sup2/index.html
See to it that her office personnaly contacts the Ramona Sentinel and KOGO 600 to spread the news. I think that 30,000+ displaced Ramona citizens deserve at least that much.
As Sherer's said, most neighborhoods have a rebel and thank God for them!! Some areas have set up neighborhood command post because the looters know that Ramona is empty. Everyone is watching out for each other. My husband and others were out Sunday night helping to rescue horses. People where walking their horses out or tying them to their trucks to get them out of harms way. Some horses slipped on the pavement and became injured. bloody and scared and people with empty trailers came to their aid. My husband was exhausted and covered in ash and a guy in a toy hauler offered him some water. Ramona is a community like no other and we should be very proud. Stan Miller on TV said that "Ramonan's are a hearty breed" We are....to say the least!
Sad to see the lack of coverage that the media is providing to the community of Ramona. I was watching Channel 8 earlier and they shown an aerial shot of Ramona from there chopper. And the funny thing was there was no fire near Ramona nor there was any smoke. So why not allow the people to get back to there homes?
I never knew that Rancho Bernardo was more important than the Ramona Community. Whatever news outlet you turn to they always have Rancho Bernado as there number #1. But yet Ramona has suffered as equal or worst than RB.
Have been looking for info everywhere. Thank you Sentinel. Sorry to also recommend another paper's site, but this thread is very helpful. : http://forum.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=79191 Has 18 pages of detailed info on Ramona, including destroyed houses and safe areas.
To Dan and Denise, Can't get thru on your cell phones, don't have your e-mail. We are at my Mom's. Call me. If we still have a house, our whole family wants your whole family to come stay with us as long as you need to. So sorry and so worried about you. Hugs and love to all. Mary and Chris
Is there anyone with info regarding the 1600 block of Cedar st(by the airport)? And also anyone know if the Sossoman's Berry Farm had damage? it is on Sutherland dam rd and 78
Diane Schoepp I have an Uncle and cousins (the O'Learys and Chesleys) in San Diego Country Estates and haven't been able to get a hold of them. Can anyone tell me if that area was spared? They live on Hampson Place... We here in Portland are thinking of all of you in Ramona. Please let us know if we can help you in any way.
Does anyone know anything about the Mobil home park on Black Canyon. Have a friend that lives alone and has no family that lived there and can't locate her. Where did they evacuate those people to??? Teresa
My Dad was able to get to Ramona yesterday, hoping he could stay with his ice chest. He said no way. The amount of ash and soot in the house is amazing and everything was closed up. Bedding, floors, walls, couches etc. No where to sit. You need water and elec. for laundry. All food in freezers and fridges need to be disposed of.
Our neighbor who stayed during the fire said it isn't the fire that is the issue with getting back. It's the water. It us unsafe and for all of us to return without the system being up could cause a major health issue.
However, I DO wish they would tell us that on the news. Most folks I know just want information. NOT having information is worse than knowing.
Can anyone who is still in town get the word the Sheriffs Dept? That may help get the ball rolling.
To answer your question about the mobile home park on Black Canyon, I have a friend who lives there in a manufactured home and I'm so sorry to say her's was a loss... last night on TV they showed an area called Oak Tree Ranch along Magnolia which suffered 54 losses, but there were some homes still there. We are still in town and I have been trying to get around to let friends know about their homes, its hard though with roadblocks etc. The water situation is tough, but I was raised by my grandparents who lived thru the war in England and this is nothing compared to that. Its hard though coz I just want to see my neighbors again and welcome everyone home!!
Sentinel, thank you so much for the updates, everyone here is right, Ramona got shafted again newswise...you are the best source for up to date info!!!
Take care everyone.... we will all be together again soon in our hometown!!
I don't think we need to yell at the water district. How about the people who left their sprinklers on that drain the reserves, that and the pump station are reasons why we are in the current situation of still being evacuated.
I am curious as to which area of town left their sprinklers on? I have a guess but will keep it to myself.
So you want to yell, yell at those who left to the water on.....
I understand this is a hard time for everyone. Some people are with out a home, some people have a home but want to come home and some people are just not sure. We have to keep in mind that it is a hard time for everyone and we need to take our frustrations and put it to positive energy. Comfort the person next to you, be thankful you are with your family and SAFE. If people left their sprinkler on..good for them, it is one more person that will have a house to come home to. I believe their would have been water problems anyway. What's done is done and now we have to move forward. We can't gripe about what should have happened or shouldnt have happened. Today is a new day and we are safe! Be thankful for life and get ready to help those in need who lost their home...but not their life! We need to remember that there is a lot of emotional exhaustion, physical exhaustion and mental exhaustion. We can't let that bring more anger to the situation than already is. This is time to come together and be strong and understanding. Not everything happens the way we want it to or in the amount of time we want it to happen. Please do not forget to thank those who have saved our homes, kept us safe, and that are working non stop to keep others safe. Their families are worried too. Thank you for all the updates. God Bless everyone who is involved in this disaster.
I guess we all handle helplessness and little information differently. Some have to vent in a public forum, some look for the best in the situation with gratitude, others keep it to passing along info. Whatever... We probably just shouldn't take the venting personally. It's just their way of dealing with a crisis, however, I don't see it adding anything of value to the situation. Just ignore the venting if it bugs you. It's not directed at you. People venting like that will likely not respond to someone admonishing them anyway. Better they take it out on bloggers than people in person.
For those of you bashing the police at the barricades - it's not their fault - they are working 12 on/12 off, and not all of them are able to return to their homes either.
For those of you insisting they let you in because you have a well for water - there is no way you can prove that to the officers at the barricades, and for some homes the electricity is out and your well won't work anyway.
No water for homes equals no water for fire hydrants too.
For those of you sleeping in your cars or on the floor of a friends home - the firefighters all over the county would pay dearly for that nice seat, food and sleep.
For those of you evacuated and impatient to get back to Ramona - be thankful you have a shower!
For those of you still in Ramona - check where you can and let's get a list going of homes that are gone or areas that are untouched. Obviously there are areas that we can not get to - Old Julian Hwy, Oak Tree Ranch are two areas that are blocked off completely.
I know that NO homes in the Country Estates or Ryland were burned.
I know it must be frustrating beyond belief, especially the unknown, but there are good reasons you are not being let back in. Patience - please be patient and remember the people you are bashing are only doing their jobs so that you are safe.
there is a lot of information in this blog about the questions you are asking. Read through or click edit on your toolbar and click find on this page to do word searches on street names or the word water, or SDG&E to find earlier blogs about these subjects. there is an accurate blog on the water situation and safety concerns if you search the word "water". We are still here. Miss you all :)
Regarding the water district not being at fault: From the media reports its not clear whether or not there is a backup power source (i.e. diesel generator) at the pumping station that lost power. We do occasionally lose power up here in goatroper country. A backup power source would have prevented this flap. Regarding sprinklers: Gotta believe most of the contents of the district's water storage tanks passed through 2-1/2" fire hoses as opposed to 3/4" sprinkler piping.
Has anyone heard news about Mr. and Mrs. Corcoran or Corcoran Ranch Apple Orchard? Apparently the two dead bodies were found off Highland Valley Rd., where the orchard is located.
Also, any news on Copper Meadows equestrian center on Montecito rd. in Ramona? This fire seems to be targeting horse facilities.
Our problem with giving exact addresses is that many homes in Ramona had a barely visable address before. if the house is not there anymore and there are no address markers, it is hard to give an exact address. We are trying to get you the info here is some released by county: Destroyed homes in unincorporated San Diego County
Destroyed homes in unincorporated San Diego County as of Wednesday afternoon, according to county officials:
Hey, thanks for the update on Copper. I kept yelling at the t.v. when they were showing the airport--as if some way that could get them to pan around and show the barns!
Mindi Briese asks, Can someone let us know how the Mt. Woodson area fared, specifically on the Poway side of the hiking trail and across the street in Dos Picos park?
Yesterday (Wed) we had to treck out to Sutherland Dam Rd to feed 8 horses, 5 pigs & a cow that had to be left w/out water. The Arabian Ranch on the corner of 78 & Sutherland Dam Rd was okay when we left at 11:30am.
Sossaman's berry farm was also Ok. There was burned terrain everywhere but the structures at Sossaman's looked fine.
Rancho Santa Theresa was not accessable. The internal roads in that area were not passable. Lots of debris and down lines. The area we could see from Hwy 78 was very burned. We have great concerns about Santa Theresa.
The old campground, Camelot, lost their store & office. There were some burned RVs. There were also several RVs that looked occupied. Perhaps evacuees are now staying there?
Out the other direction, we were as far as Peace Valley Rd. the first several homes on Peace Valley were fine. We didn't go up very far from the Hwy67 side.
Air Mail Lane an the 67 side also looked fine.
All of Ramona Street is fine and so is all of Boundary. The hill across from the school - Hanson Way, is all OK.
Wellfield Park structures looked fine. All ball fields looked ok. the vegitation in the creekbed was burned. There was some sort of commercial buidling up at the top, near Famous Ramona Water(not Ramona Municipal Water) That was burned to the ground. No damage to those rock houses next door.
I haven't been out to the Estates but have asked a neighbor who has. He says parts he's seen look fine. I particularly asked about Ryland. All is ok based on his observation. Fire came very close.
Going up to Mountian View Community Church right now to unload trucks of blankets, cots, water, supplies etc. so that we have emergency supplies for any of you who have lost homes when you arrive. Anyone still in Ramona who want to help unload, feed people or just visit and have a cup of coffee is welcome to drop by :) MVCC is being manned 24/7
I swear the CHP have no idea what they are saying. This last officer states "A mandatory Evacuation is back in force for the area between Willows and San Vicente Rd" First off when did the evacuation come off? Secondly, she states that the area between San vicente and Willows is Pine Valley? So do I assume she just got the area wrong and the fire is in that area or what?
I would also like to get news of the Corcorans, and also the Brixeys, farther down Highland Valley Rd. Thank you all for the information. Also thank you Col(?) Blackledge for the common sense statements about the evacuations and the timing of the return.
We bought milk yesterday at Stater Bros. The water is running very thin. Not sure what Albertsons or CVS has. There were fruit and veggies, but were out of fresh meat. I think they had chicken though.
As of yesterday We saw grocery store trucks were let through and unloading. They will let Fuel Trucks and Feed trucks through the barricades from what I have seen on CHP cad site. I think they are doing a good job trying to get fresh food, running water and Electricity here for everyone so that we are ready when everyone gets back.
cindy e said My husband & I began our married life running the Western Center at San Diego Country Estates; altho we moved from Ramona in '97 & out of So CA in '02 [currently live in Central CA], we return every October for the SDCFA farrier competition/clinic in Lakeside & we still have many friends in Ramona & SD County.
While it has been frightening, shocking & all those other words [that still come nowhere close to describing what all of you are experiencing down there], we are thankful for the coverage & info from Ramona Sentinel, SignOnSanDiego, & TV. And yes, we would like to hear more specifics re: Ramona, Fallbrook, etc--why not direct comments to the media--turn your efforts there.
There are some people we have heard from/about [all OK, tho some have suffered some loss], but we've heard nothing about the San Diego Country EStates & still have several friends out there. Does anyone know about that area? The lists I've seen have no addresses from that area.
Take heart, people of Ramona & appreciate all that's been done to get you to safety. Many people have fought long & hard to keep your community from being obliterated. Now that the peak of panic & fright are [probably] past, don't turn on one another or start looking for wrong. Use that anger/frustration/impatience to help each other & bring good out of this terrible time.
I just drove to the bottom of the hill on 78 into the San Pasqual Valley and got turned around. The houses that you can see from 78 on Weekend Villa are all stil there but as you get further down the hill alot more houses are lost but there are still many houses standing! Good luck!
Thanks to the Sentinal and the people using this blog constructively. While it is great to have a place to vent, what we really need is information. For those of us that went through the Cedar Fire, there is a huge improvement in how this situation has been handled.
I am thankful for those that chose to stay and keep us informed I would be equally thankful if those of us that left remain patient so that we can all return to a safe, secure situation.
There is no point wasting energy throwing stones at our neighbors and officals. We need to use our energy for positive efforts and thoughts and remain the proud, strong Ramona Family we have always been.
I love Ramona and can't wait to get home, but I will wait until we are told it is safe to return.
This is Brian L. and I'm in SD Country Estates on the very east end of Ramona Oaks with very little to almost no damage here. Old Julian Hwy is heavily damaged. My cellphone needs a recharge so I'm limited on more information. God Bless All.
What of the camel ranch? Did they get them out? I did not leave and am near Mussey grand on a hill all looks good at this end of town. Airmail lane looks like it had no fires. Horse ranch at 67 & Mussey has alot of evacuated horse there.
Can anyone tell me about Bob and Linda Denny. I know the Womens Recovery Home is gone, but no word on Bob and Linda. Also Greg Roderick and his wife. Thanks for any info, and God Bless All. Marla
HEY IS MOLLY MALONES BAR IN RAMONA STILL STANDING...CUZ IM DEFINETLY GONNA NEED A DRINK AFTER THIS IS ALL OVER!...LOL JUST A LITTLE HUMOR TO LIGHTEN THE MOOD!
Props to Cheers remaining open the whole time. One thing is for sure, next time a evacuation notice goes out I will not leave until the flames are at my doorstep.
Your best bet for latest up-to-date info to COME HOME is: LOcal Sheriff DEPT in RAMONA is 760 789-1200. Call them to find out when we can come home. They'll be the best direct source so far. The politicians, well...are politicians! They're always good for a story.
Im the President of Pop Warner, I have coaches and players that have been hit by this fire. I have other Pop Warner associations in San Diego trying to give my supplies for my players and coaches that have been affected. If you know anyone involved with Pop Warner that needs assistance please have them contact me. Hopefully I cant get back in tonite so I can receive these items. thanks Ben Narramore
I would like to know about the homes in town...specifically H Street & 10th. I am thankful that my family and our pets are safe. We have been in Costa Mesa at a hotel since Monday and plan to return today to the San Diego area....hopefully the water situation will be corrected soon and all can return. If anyone is in the town itself and knows about the neighborhood near Ramona Elementary School, any information you can give us is appreciated. God bless Ramona! Thank you Ramona Sentinel for providing this way to communicate with our neighbors. Shirley Rath
WELL I DEFINETLY HAD BEER IN MY HOUSE...HOPEFULLY IT WASNT MINE...BUT AT LEAST THE NATIONAL GUARD IS WORKING TO KEEP OUR HOMES SAFE AND THANKS FOR THE INFO
Good Morning Ramona family, I found this site searching for information on my family which I have since found are safe and sound with all horses, dogs and a bird in tow, and fortunately a home to return to. As I read these comments I am warmed not only by the caring for one another but by the many mentions of the animals and the selfless focus on ensuring the health and safety of these lives. Pets large and small are precious gifts that are entrusted to humans. The warm community you have is evident in the warmth and care given to protecting all life. Congratulations and God Bless
I just want to thank everyone for their sleepless efforts (fire fighters, SDG&E, water authorities). We did not evacuate and have been fairly safe through this whole ordeal....We still have no water, but I know that the water authority is doing the best they can to get us back on line...my prayers go out to all of you that lost your homes. We have seen many acts of kindness, everyone helping!!! Thank you Ramona Sentinel for providing us this forum, it's been a great deal of help!
It was mentioned that two cabins on Oakbridge and the owners house were lost. Was the owners house on Chatty Lane? I know thats where the director of the camp lived and was wondering if thats the house that was lost.
We went by there yesterday to pick up some hay from a friend's house (we have her horses), don't know if you know or not, but all the houses in that area are fine, nothing burned!! Hope you get home soon!!
I THINK AFTER THIS FIRE DESASTER IS GONE..WE ARE GONNA HAVE A NEW PROBLEM...THE BRUSH AND TREES THAT KEPT THE GROUND STABLE IS GONE...WHEN THE RAIN COMES WE MAY HAVE LANDSLIDES
What is the air quality like in San Diego now? We evacuated Ramona and went to Miramar but ended up leaving for ventura county b/c we have a small baby. We'd like to return to the San Diego area but not until we think it's safe for our 6 month old.
The 5 is now open in all directions. And a good portiof of the smoke has actually traveled North and out to the ocean but we do expect the smoke out above the ocean to return with the new off shore winds.
Family home on Tartan Terrace (off Highlander, off Highland Valley). Last report, house OK. Anyone know if that is still the case???? All the activity on Mt Woodson leaves us wondering. Looks like lots of damage on Magnolia. Uncle stayed (house at top of Ramona Real). Was able to save his own house and two others. Talk about bravery & unselfishness! Thanks to all. Any little info is a BIG help!!!!
So sorry to hear about the Corcorans' house. So was my son Daniel, who spent several good years at Corcoran Ranch School. Glad everyone is all right. --Jane T.
I know they are still not letting anyone in but I saw somewhere that they are letting some areas in Ramona today, can you confirm that and if so what areas?
I am reading a lot of frustration from people who want to come back. I know it is comforting to be home and you want to start living normal again. But, coming back up to Ramona will not be normal. I am up here now taking care of my Dad who just had surgery and refuses to leave. There is NO WATER to be used. The water district is now turning of lines of people who do have water. The only people who have water are the ones with power and a well. Plus, the water quality s really bad. Those who do have water are on a boil alert. Coming home is not a good idea now. My prayers are with everyone who is down the hill, but please be pateint and let them get a working town in order first...
Reading this blog today has been so helpful and I really appreciate everyone's point of you and respect all who have been effected. My thoughts and prayers are with those who have suffered a loss. My husband and I are among the lucky who have not had damage done. (friend inspected our house and reported this to us).
I'm utterly frustrated at the delay in allowing us back into Ramona though. This is no longer due to the threat of fire. I'm sorry - you don't evacuate a community of 36,000 people because of a water shortage. It's time to open the road and let us back. This is over kill and I don't think it's sending a smart message. My feelings at this point are - if there's an evacuation again, I won't be leaving!
Katie, I saw exactly what you are talking about. If you look farther down on that article on the ramona sentinel it's stating the exact opposite, where one fire Cpt. says "I doubt anyone gets back into Ramona today". I don't really know what to believe anymore. Even the people at the other line of 211 were saying it's kind of ridiculous and they have a hard time relaying information they receive because they hear so much other stuff which contradicts it. Your best bet to keep up on what is happening in regards to repopulation is going to be www.sdcountyemergency.com
The incompetence of Ramona Water District for not being prepared with backup systems and spare generators is to blame for having to be displaced for an additional minimum of 48 hrs. Living in a high fire area, this is unconscionable and heads should roll. I am lucky to have found a decent hotel, but this lack of sufficient emergency preparedness is beyond words. We are adults and should be allowed home regardless if we have water. We know how to use bottled water. There are numerous areas in San Diego that have water pipe breaks and are forced to live without water for a few days. I would much prefer being in my own home and having to rely on bottled water, than living out of a hotel. LET US BACK HOME NOW!!!
Kelly kfmb.com reports that the 5 is still closed at the scale station but that could just be the station itself. also on that site there is an air quality advisory of moderate to hazardous but ramona is not listed as hazardous. hope it helps.
Living on bottled drinking water is fine, but not being able to flush toilets for 5 people and not showering for several days is not good. At least you can wash your face, take a shower, and flush your toilets...Not to mention the free water is running out and Stater Bros is selling at the regular price which can get expensive...
It's so easy for the people who defied the mandatory evacuation order to put some kind of positive spin on us being homeless right now. You are not being blocked from going to YOUR HOME!
So, you would rather let 30,000+ people back in to town so that they can all complain about not having water. If you let that many people in the recovery will take longer. Let them do there jobs and you will get back to normal quicker...And, no I haven't been home, there was no water so we havent been home...So, I may not be down the hill, but we havent been home either...
Oh my God no!!!! Linda is my sister in law, and Bob her husband. Where did you here their home was lost??? Or are you talking about the Womens Recovery Home???
Looking for info on friends: Katy Cain Black Canyon Tim & Laura Richardson Quest Road Gary payne Family Ceder Janet Tulloch Hwy 78 Mike & Heather Smith 10th st Sandy Wolf family @ 340 Pile and also info on the house at 855 Brightside Way. Lived in ramona 7 yrs ago still think of it as home, thoughts and prayers are with you Ramona, take it one day at a time.
People staying back and "defying" the mandatory evacuation made a personal choice! Don't knoch them! During the Cedar fire we stayed back and were able to save 5 homes on our street! Don't feel anger fell grateful because I've heard many stories of houses saved because of these "bad" people!
For all those of you who are cmoplaining about the MANDATORY evacuation are being irrational right now. All us evacuatees are tired and want to go home. If they let us back in now, that is 30,000 people who are going to start using water and that will worsen the situation. People who did go back a couple days ago were WASHING their cars and houses. THat is so inconciderate. Bottom line people won't listen to the officials on the water problem and they know that. IT's BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN TO BE SORRY. The Cedar Fires came back thru Ramona twice and it could happen again and DID last night around Old Julian HWY. Now we have to worry about the fire in San Ysabel area coming to Ramona.
LET THE FIRE FIGHTERS AND OFFICIALS DO THEIR JOBS< LISTEN AND RESPECT THEM AND THEIR DECISIONS.
Those of you who ar BITCHING about not ever evacuating agin are IDOTS and much not have any intelligence. Because all they are doing is trying to save lives and prepare foir the worse.
The official just can't win either way. If they didn't evacuate Ramona you would be bitching and they DID and you are bitching.
Lets all hang in there, please. We all want to go home those of us who still have one. And for those who do not I'm so sorry, but life does go on and new memories will be made.
It will only get better with all this disaster preparedness. It is 100% better than the Cedar fires
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1 – 200 of 622 Newer› Newest»Thank you so much for providing this forum. It would be very helpful if people in the area provide verified address of destroyed homes.
My home at 19254 Horizon View Dr. Ramona CA is a total loss it has burned to the ground. Does anyone know if the witch fire was caused by another downed SDG&E power line? If you remember it happened a couple of months ago and was cought in the nick of time.
I want to come home. I live in Ramona proper. There is no fire threatening my house and I know its still standing. I think Ramona is still closed because its easy to keep 4 roads closed. Everyone else in San Diego is able to go back to their houses. At the very least tell us when we can come back.
Once evacuated I been homeless and run all over the county by other evacuations.
Next time I either stay home or go to Vegas.
Cranky and tired of sleeping on the ground, bout ready to run the police blockade, at least if they throw me jail i get a bed.
We really really want to come home, we live in Town isn't it safe?
Can anybody tell me if North Arabians off of southerland dam rd made it throught the fire. I want to make sure everybody and all the horses made it throught this. May God speed his love to everybody in the fires. Have a Blessed Day,
Nashville CF
My father lives in Ramona Terrace Estates. Does anyone know if that area is okay? We live in Maui and are not getting much news. Any information would be much appreciated.
Does anyone know if the Young Life Camp called Oakbridge is ok?
Any new info on north mt. woodson yet?
I live in Las Vegas now, however, I grew up in Ramona. Some members of my family still reside there.. I would like to express my sincere sympathy for all the citizens of Ramona. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone. God Bless and keep safe.
Hey I am sorry to say that North Arabians DID get caught in the fire and it is gone. My friend's mom used to take care of those horses and was at a horse show out of state where the mother saw the owners of the ranch and they confirmed it was gone. They said they only lost a couple of horses.
My Dad lives on Orange Ave. off of Pile Street back by the avocado farm- I know Pile didn't make it, does anyone know anything about Orange?
I want to thank this newspaper for the absolutely phenomenal job it is doing getting some info out about Ramona. I lived in Ramona for many years and have a lot of family there. I will always consider Ramona my home, and my heart and prayers go out to everyone affected by these fires.
I hear Ramona Terrace Estates did not sustain damage.
Oak Bridge lost 2 cabins, and the owner lost his home.
I live in Ramona proper, near Haverford and Elm, any news? Anyone? Please!!! Good Luck all
What astonishes me is that there is not a damage list for Ramona. Wasn't Ramona the first to be evacuated? Every other city/town/pothole has a list. Smaller towns and larger towns have at least started their lists. I see from news on this site there are people (elected officials) in Ramona that have not evacuated. Why haven't they compiled a list or at least attempted to until now. RB, Poway, Escondido, etc have had lists for days. Very frustrating! Thanks so much for this site and the paper. If it weren't for it, I don't think we would have half the info we do - good job!
Has anyone heard anything about the homes on Rancho Santa Teresa Dr.?
If Ramona had multi million dollar homes like other areas affected by the fire there would be more TV coverage and the elected official (Dianne Jacob) would be doing more to get people back in.
Other areas that have more fire damage and just as many potential hot spots and yet they are home tonight. Why? Money!
The fault is not the local fire officials or police officers - it is out of their hands. Blame the politicians.
Does anybody know if 415,430 & 443 Pile street are OK????? Thanks for the info posted here and for the Sentinel updates. I have moved to N.C. and have all my friends and people of Ramona in my prayers.
Teresa
Ramona does not have enough water or power to support 30,000 people. That is the issue with repopulating, not the fires. There is surprisingly little damage to most of Ramona. The Cities are posting addresses for losses but not the unincorp areas of County, maybe ask Dianne Jacobs to start a list? Many people left sprinklers on when they left and that is just draining the system.
Why all the SDG&E questions, does SGDG&E control the santa ana winds now? What IF a power line was knocked down and started a fire? If the wind knocks a tree onto your house are you going to blame the tree? When The Water district gets their tanks and pipes full again and tests the water, when the hot spots are out and elec is restored to a majority of homes, then I'm sure they will let people back in. Enjoy your hot shower and try to relax tonight :)
Elm had some damage. as did Cedar near elm. If you had a relatively new house with space around you are probably okay, If you had a lot of clutter, trees and outbuildings with an older house maybe not so lucky. Newer houses on the so side of Orange are okay. Older home on Orange with an large shop in front and separate family/bar room to the right is gone. Schwetmans(sp) house is still there.
Does anybody know anything about Illusion Arabians??????
KNSD channel 7/39 now has a "list" for Ramona (such as it is)
I just saw that homes on Green Valley Truck Trail were destroyed. Does it stand to reason if we know homes are destroyed we know which homes? Little Help????? Pretty please.
PS - I saw pile street info on the sentinal main page. I think it was reported yesterday.
Can anyone tell me the extent of the damage on Cedar Street? Are all of the houses gone or just the one shown on CBS? (To those folks,I am so very sorry for the loss of your Home.)
Anyone know how Tag Lane did?
Not much damage to Cedar West of 78
Only about 4 houses on north side of pile were lost on to the right of the Bakers for sure
Tag lane and other town areas are fine :)
Thank you for letting me know about Tag Lane.
My Mother's Home on Highlander Drive is still standing, We were rejoicing until we saw the CBS report, and became worried for the Taber's. To The Scherer's thank you for easing my mind.
My dad lives off of Haverford and Pine, right off Los altos de cerro, his house is standing with three others in the area, the others have been destroyed. He said it's unbeliveable the damage.
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone.
http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/dplu/docs/cosd_confirmed_damage_assessments_10-23-2007.pdf
Is a small unincorporated list, small but you might find it helpful. There are 13 Ramona addresses listed.
I hear what you are saying about the water and that is a very valid point and probably true. Just wondering why they don't day that then. I read on the main page that the Supervisor said the reason for the continued closure was because of hot spots. It did note some people have their own wells; why couldn't they come in.
Just posing some thoughts.
The good news is that delays into homes is not a bad thing compared to the potential of life loss.
Good Luck All!
Wildcat Canyon
From what I can gather the Canyon survived pretty well. I manage a camp (http://www.campfeatherstone.org) which is at mile marker 8.5 (coming from Lakeside.) We sustained very light fire damage (none to buildings) and some minor wind damage but at least the camp itself was not burned out like in 2003.
D
Does anyone know if 457 Alice St. is ok? Thanks so much...
Does anyone know about Via Taquita street in Ramona. We have friends that live on this street and I cannot get in touch with them. Thank you!
Any damage on Weekend Villa? Erica and Joe, if you're there, answer me please. Anyone with any information I would greatly appreciate a response :)
Hope all is well with everyone!
Irene Esper
Irene, My friend Zack Espinoza live on Rancho Villa and Joe Espinoza(Zack's Father) made it up there today, no homes on the streets surrounding them were loss, the only stuff that burned were the Giant Oak trees surrounding that area.
Does anybody know if Marilyn and Steve Kahle are alright? They have a vineyard and live off of Airmail lane.
Eileen did the fire make it to Air Mail Lane? I believe the closest it got to there was Norther part of Mt.Woodson but even that fire is out now. Im pretty confident in stating that Air Mail lane was untouched.
thanks for the info, keep it coming. Seems to be the only way we will find out anything
I am currently in Colorado with my boyfriend from Ramona. It's been hard trying to confirm information on the status of his parents house on El Paso St. We heard that it is still standing. Bless everyone in Ramona during these hard times. And thanks to the Sentinel for their constant coverage. The news channels don't give much information on Ramona.
Huge thanks to Ramona Sentinel for their WONDERFUL job keeping us up-to-date with what is going on with Ramona. We are getting extremely frustrated with the lack of information/coverage of Ramona's damage but Ramona Sentinel has been a Godsend.
Does anyone have any news of the old folks/retirement home Little Iowa? The address is 26330 Hwy 78 and there are three homes lined up side by side with one confirmed down. Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Katrina Glover
Excellent job reporting!
I dont live in Ramona any more, but used to live on Rangeland Road off of Highland Valley road - at the end in the hills...I saw some of the footage from the airport and I cant imagine that the house I lived in as a kid can still be there- any news from that area?
I used to live in Ramona and now live in the Inland Empire but still have many family members there. I know for myself, after the mandatory evacuations, it was very difficult to get ANY information about Ramona. Our families have been evacuated from site to site and every TV channel that shows all of the other areas (especially RB) and all of the web-site show the lists of all of the destroyed homes (especially RB) but nothing on Ramona. Now, most of the areas that started burning after Ramona, residents are able to go back home even if they have "Hot Spots".....I understand about the water situation but how about a little understanding for all of the people who have been sleeping on the ground or in their cars and have been living on nerves just wanting to know if they even have a house to go home too.
Just very fustrated on the coverage or lack there of on Ramona.
I just left that ranting comment but I also wanted to make sure to tell you all
....."GREAT JOB"
You are one of the only sites that is providing any info on Ramona
Cal Fire did alot of back-fires in the grassland near the airport. Depending if your old home was in the grassland or more near sagebrush and more difficult to defend.
At the base of that small mountain out off of Pile and Orange the fire department cleared a fire break during the cedars fire- does anyone know about the homes back in there? There is a plant nursey on that mountain, I think, way back off of Orange.
It was over that hill, 18759 Rangeland- Im not sure who lives there now... my parents built it in the early 80's- I know there is new development in the hill as well now but on the fire maps it was clearly in the 'middle' of things...
thanks for the info!
I found this list of destroyed homes on another area of the site:
448 Pile Street
534 Pile Street
744 Pile Street
918 Pile Street
526 Pile Street
428 Washington
Some of these are within a half mile of my relative's home at 2040 Pamo Road. If anyone gets into the area to check specific homes, please add this to the list of ones to check...thank you very much.
I haven't lived in Ramona for almost 17 years but still very much consider it my home town. My Dad lives off of Haverford and Pine and I am happy to say that his house is fine. Unfortunately a few of his neighbors were not so lucky. I want to thank D. Shaw for being our eyes during this nightmare. My thoughts are with you all.
Thanks Sentinel for giving us some info on our neighborhood. It is truly appreciated.
Does someone know if the grove across the street from Solida del Sol is still there? The 4.5 mile marker on Highland Valley Rd. My home is in the middle of it.
I have to comment that the Kathy Finley person on the 'headlines' page is making ridiculous, SELFISH comments! The fire and police authorities in San Diego county are working as hard as humanly possible. Volunteers are donating time, and Finley had the nerve to say that she feels like a refuge!!! Really! A refuge?! I am sure that MANY refugees would be more that happy to have safe evacuation sites available to them! Being away from your home and in an uncomfortable environment is just that, UNCOMFORTABLE. Finley is safe, her home is probably safe and she has the nerve to complain, cause chaos and put other people in danger by her ignorance. I hope that the people of Ramona get to return to their homes safely, in an efficient and controlled manor. Shame of you Kathy Finely, who are you planning for?!
Thank you so much to everyone who is sharing what they know- particulary 'scherers'.
Katie Cochran here :)
HI! I live in Seattle right now but I grew up in Ramona and had a BEAUTIFUL horse ranch on highland valley there till we sold it like... 2 yrs ago.
Ramona is my happy place, my home, my childhood, and I started crying when I heard it was on fire. No one understands here in Seattle- they are all so removed from it. If anything has happened to my old house (which I plan on re-buying someday!) I'd never be the same lol
I'm coming home to ramona next week to try and help out, and to check out the damage.
I heard north Mt. Woodson is pretty burned up.
I'm SO FRUSTRATED by lack of coverage of Ramona I could scream. And it's not like we DONT have multi-million dollar homes. I lived in between like... 20!
Someone should be slapped.
I found the most info on Ramona here on this page than in all 3 days of checking the net and tv every five minutes!!!!
NOW GO AND GET US A DAMAGE REPORT DAMNIT!!!!
From what I have been reading, it seems like the water officals are working as hard as possible to get the system up...
If I remember right, Ramona is at the 'end of the line' as far as water goes- and if they were pulling every drop out for fire fighting that is going to stir up ALOT of crap in the system... and the last thing anyone needs right now is a case of Ecoli 0157H7!
In addition to that stirring up... likely many people left pipes running in gardens etc... with the strong draw of water used for fire fighting thats going to pull alot of that water BACK into the system...
If people with wells start heading back into town, stores might start re-opening and using that water!
I can see the logic pretty clearly of not letting anyone back in yet! (not that that makes it any easier...)
My dad is on well but needs elec. to pump! hmmm need a generator. He's working on it. Any idea when elec. will be restored?
does anyone know ANYTHING on the homes in north mt woodson? please ,we need info desperatly on our home
Eileen Highley, I live next door to Steve and Marilyn Kahle. Some people in our neighborhood stayed put through this whole ordeal and said our properties are all untouched, thankfully.
mt.woodson is okay, pray that the winds don't come up tonight. Was pretty touch and go,the helios and planes were bombing most of the day. will tell more later if anything changes
In the last 6 months my father and my husband have died. Now I have been waiting for 4 anxious days to find out if my home has been burned to ashes.
Please People!!! Lets put things into the right perspective... we are tired, hungry, and doing without (information and the comforts of home) BUT ... there have been MANY brave souls out there risking their lives to save us and our properties.
Can't we take the time to stop whining and say a heart felt thankyou?!?
I CAN ... THANK YOU ALL
Cameron Statler,
Thank you for the piece of mind, I hope all is well for everyone else.
Keep your hopes up :D
Irene Esper
My husband went into through Vista ramona and said how unbelievably close how the fire came right up to properties and commented what a heck of a good job the firefighters did saving all of our homes. we should be proud and thankful that we have this wonderful people protecting us and our property and deal with this minor inconvenience, because it could have been a lot worse. God Bless Us All!
Does anyone have info on Deerben? Off of Rancho Santa Teresa? My friends were evacuated on Sunday and are with their horses in Del Mar and have not gotten any information about the area at all.
Anyone one have any information regarding the North Ramona Street and La Brea area? Thanks
-CW
So, what, every time we have a water outage, they're going to evacuate the town?
Thanks to The Ramona Sentinel for keeping us informed about our town. Just when we're feeling forgotten - we came upon this site. I just wish we were being told the truth about why we aren't allowed back in. Obviously it's the water issue. Over 30,000 people without water could quickly create a health hazard. I know people are working day and night to restore what we need and we appreciate it. Thank goodness for friends/neighbors who stayed behind and are now looking after our home.
My in-laws live on Handlebar Rd, off Highland Valley; does anyone know the status of homes on that area?
The sad thing is that next time we're ordered to evacuate, no one is going to leave. We'll all think twice before leaving town again.
Does anyone know who is responsible for deciding when we can return? Not just the angency, but the individual's names.
It was on the news that it may be an additinal four days before the water is restored. Can they keep us out that long?
I pulled this off the News 8 site:
NEW: RAMONA HOME INFORMATION
7:20 p.m. - Residents of the Oak Tree Ranch community in Ramona who would like information on their homes are being asked to call (760) 789-1382. Approximately 54 homes have been destroyed there.
Above me: I am not sure who makes the decision to allow reentry, mist likely it is a committee. Jerry Sanders has the final word in SD but Ramona I believe is unincorporated so I am not sure who has the final say.
We aren't being let back because:
1. There is a fire still burning on Mt. Woodson where I have no clue because the stupid news people ain't reporting it. Been screaming at them all day. I guess because we ain't the beautiful people of Del Mar, Rancho Bernardo, or Rancho Santa Fe, our fire isn't important enough. Geez repeat of the Cedar Fire, Scripps Ranch this and Scripps Ranch that, oh those poor people in Scripps Ranch. UGH!!!
2. For those not paying attention, the power to a pump station for Ramona Water was burned up so they have to bring in a huge honkin generator to run that pump. It takes a while to re pressurize the whole system again. But then again the idiots who are washing down their homes and car doesn't help either.
3. ans there suppose to be a power outage there too??? Where I have electricity because I get my answering machine.
So theres are the reasons.
With that said, HEY DON G. whose homes burned on Sky Valley besides the Sky Valley Internet guy. I know too many people on that road.
Finally, THANK YOU Sentinel!!!! I am sorry I only thought to check you guys out today. Great local news.
I was just watching the news and they were talking about Rancho Bernardo - the recommendation to allow reentry rests solely with the Fire Chief. I would assume the same is true for Ramona. For RB the chief makes the recommendation to Sanders, not sure who he will make the recommendation to for Ramona.
I hope that helps. Who is the fire chief that makes that decision - I have no idea.
Pastor D
My wife's brother and sis in law live in Ramona. The information from ramonasentinel.com has been appreciated. We visit Ramona regularly and are dealing with the Santiago fire here at home. Everyone stay safe and kudos to the brave firefighters and those who decided to stay to protect their homes.
let's all start yelling at the water district. Situation should have never been allowed to happen.
CAL is the only department that can allow us access to Ramona/SDCEA. I just got off the phone with CHP and they advised me that the Fire Marshall of the Wildcat Canyon area ordered for no one to be allowed up Wildcat Canyon until tomorrow morning except for Barona reservation residence. They also advised me that Ramona is currently open for repopulation but the roads into Ramona from all directions are closed due to hot spot activity along these routes(Ridiculous).The CHP even joked that it was kind of pointless and I should retrieve my Ultra Light Helicopter to return home. I would almost pay with a few others to rent a chopper and a pilot into Ramona. I even repeated that line to the officer to make sure I was not incorrect in my understanding. One piece of good news was the officer telling me that the Fire Marshall would have Wildcat canyon opened in the morning.(I still won't count on it)
For those of you that are NOT politically knowlegeable, a lot of rhetoric gets slug... but keep in mind, it's the ACTION that speaks louder than words.
Sadly, Military (Federal) are willing to help Cal Fire but the two agencies can't get their act together.Ergo, good intentions Congressmen, but "Where's the beef"?
This governmental infighting is a Deja Vu of 4 years ago.
If it weren't for our tight knit community, more houses would've been burnt. Thanks Ramona, for sticking it out.
Its different than an outage, because the lines are drained. In an outage the lines would still be full, chlorinated and pressurized...
In this case the lines have been at very low pressure- and the pull on the lines disrupts the natural layer of bacteria/deposits on the insides of the pipes - stirs up all kinds of stuff that bacteria can cling to and make chlorine less effective...
There is also the backflow possibility...if there is a malfunctioning toilet of hose on the ground and a fire fighter is down the line sucking up water- it can suck whatever that hose or whatever into the system because the pressure gets reversed... this has happened with chemicals, bacteria etc. in the past.
http://www.nobackflow.com/pnw-awwa.htm
They need to get the pressure back in the lines, check for contamination and let chlorine sit in them to kill any bacteria-
(I did the post above about the lines as well...)
1) thank you to the firefighters for working incredibly difficult conditions to tame this fire and protect our community and our homes
2) thanks to the sentinel for providing the best information throughout this ordeal. keep up the excellent work!
3) public officials are doing the right thing by evacuating. they have nothing to gain by keeping you from your home and it has nothing to do the value of your home. it is just too easy to scapegoat them. it doesn't matter if you have a well or not. they have determined it is not safe for you and it is their job to protect you. i doubt you want to be breathing that air right now, anyway. officials are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. have a little patience.
4) wish you all the best of luck with your home and hope that when we all return, you will help our community rebuild.
5) thanks to everyone for sharing information about what they do know on the ground. cheers to scherers and the other level-headed folks.
6) stay calm and enjoy the fact you are alive and well.
I am somewhat suprised at the amount of grumbling. I am so very grateful to everyone who was involved in fighting the fire who kept our home from being burned. I am so grateful that so many of my friends and neighbors in the community I grew up in, will be able to go home to the homes THEY grew up in.
We are are blessed to live in a community which came together in front of the eyes of the world singing, helping, giving, and loving. I would hate for others to see Ramona as a selfish community because of the grumbling of a couple people.
These have been anxious days for everyone, lets not compound it by complaining about how things are being handled. The people handling things are working tirelessly to get us all back home, and to make sure that those who can't get home will be taken care of.
Every bit over water used is one less gallon for the air tankers at Ramona Airport to mix with retardent. If your home is standing, don't be the cause of someone else's burning because of your use of the water, or complain that they aren't letting you come home because of it. They are trying to protect homes and families. Be an example.
Thank you so much to the Ramona Sentinel, for keeping so many people informed about what is happening in Ramona.The local and national news just isn't saying much about Ramona.
I used to live near the airport and went to Ramona High. I live in Northern California now. Its so sad to see the fires in the area, but especially in Ramona. We used to live near the airport off main street. it looks like that area has faired ok, but would appreciate any info on that particular area. Our home was located on Carlin St.
God Bless everyone, and I hope you will be able to return home soon. Be patient and try to stay calm while you wait to be allowed to return. It is for your safety and the safety of emergency personnel.
G
Sara Anderson
www.ramonarelief.com
Just thought I would let everyone know! I live in Colorado but grew up in Ramona and all of my family is still there. My brother stayed in town and said although it is devastating at least many survived. Thanks for starting this page I have been staring at the computer for days trying to get infor about Ramona.
Sara ANderson
Does anyone have a current status on the fire at Mt Woodson?
Mt.Woodson is contained and is no longer a serious threat to the homes in that area.
Does anyone know if 645 Hanson escaped unscathed? I believe they have a couple of horses also? Thanks!
I was in Brazil on business when the Witch Creek fire started. My wife called me in a frantic mood, after what we experienced in 2003 with the Cedar fire. She evacuated Sunday night, and I caught the 1st flight home on Monday, arriving Tuesday into Lindbergh field. We live in Mt Woodson and it has been impossible to get any updates on the actual situation there. Now just to give an update on the power of technology....my wife bought me a Slingbox last Christmas so that I could watch the Chargers games while away from San Diego on business (most often internationally). From Brazil, all Sunday night I was watching the local news stations in San Diego on my Slingbox via the internet while in my hotel room in Brazil. Monday morning I went to breakfast and when I came back to my room, I could no longer connect to the Slingbox at my house via the internet. I then called our home phone, and when our answering machine did not answer I had that empty feeling in my stomach. I have had not reason to believe that my home is still standing until a few minutes ago when I read in this blog that power was back on in Ramona. So guess what, I took a chance that I might be able to connect to my Slingbox from a hotel in La Jolla, and VOILA!! it came on. That can only mean that at least my master bedroom is still there, and hard to believe that COX communications came alive and everything rebooted. Sorry about being a nerd here, but with the lousy network coverage of Ramona, my Slingbox is my only reason to believe that I still have a home.
Thank you Ramona Sentinel. Now if we can get the local network stations to give Ramona some proper coverage and if we can get back into our neighborhoods we all will have more reason to believe that the worst is over.
We just visited family in Ramona in Sept. and are so sad about the fire and all it has caused for the kindly people of Ramona and elsewhere in California. We live in New York but are following the news constantly and hoping everyone stays safe and that your homes and businesses are intact. People here are very concerned, and ask one another if we have family/friends affected by the fires. Good luck, we hope you get back to your homes and lives very soon. Chin up, stay feisty and know that from where we sit, you all look courageous and resilient. Our heartfelt condolences to those who have lost homes/ creatures you love. We are pulling for you.
Mindy W. - I also want to thank the firefighters for working so tirelessly in our community. Thank you to the folks out there doing animal rescue and to the Diamond D and Elstons for feed. Thank you to the stores that were able to stay open to help us with supplies.
Some of you might not realize that these people helping out the community have had losses as well, from burned homes, lost property and animals that may not have survived.
The majority of Ramonans have pulled together through this tragady. I know there are alot more people we need to thank.
Let's remember to be thankful for what we do have and to help our neighbors in need
All residents of Ramona are frustrated and tired just as my family and I are. Be grateful our town does not have extensive lists to publish.
Our local officials have nothing to gain by keeping us out longer than needed. They have everything to lose if we return and the fire returns, we are sick from contaminated water or we experience brown outs due to excessive drain on the lines.
For those that have lost their homes, businesses or both as well as those who lost pets or income due to the evacuation, you have my sympathy and hope that you have a quick recovery. I am certain that all Ramonans feel for you.
I have heard stories of those in SOCAL that lost houses and businesses in the Cedar Fire 4 years ago and lost it all again in the Witch Creek Fire.
For those of you losing patience, learn to deal with it. Our laws give the elected leadership, fire and police officials the authority to maintain the evacuation order until the situation warrants our return.
I have evacuated my family and am working at Camp Pendleton helping Marines prepare to return to Iraq. Several thousand of them are dealing with this fire situation while they continue their training as best they can and, for many, it will not be their first tour. Our fire fighters, police officers, medical personnel and other volunteers are also dealing with evacuation and loss. I do not hear complaints from any of these people; learn from them. Be glad that you are alive and safe and waiting to return to a home that is still standing. Many are not so fortunate in California right now.
My thanks to all the emergency, police and fire personnel that helped save Ramona.
Semper Fi
Alice Street is fine. El Paso and Ramona St is fine. Be encouraged, I just got back from assisting feed community workers at my church Mountain View. All of the restaurants in town have been closed due to un-healthy water. Mountain view has its own water source and been cleared to cook. It is the only place for the workers to get a hot meal, coffee all night and a clean bathroom. Many Many, Many, deputies and military are patrolling and guarding Ramona for you until you can return. Most of us have not had a shower for days. We are using our ashen black pool water to flush toilets. We ALSO pray that the water can be back soon! Again, it is not RMWDs fault that the pumps burned and people left their water running. They are doing the best they can to fix everything. Trust me the police and military want you to come home too so they can go home to their families :)
Old Ramona used to be proud and loyal. We stuck together. We all knew each other and news traveled by each other. We had to put up a stop sign so people would know the town was here.
This is kind of the same thing: news is by "word of mouth", the "flat-landers" don't know we are up here, BUT ... the pride and loyalty have been replaced by belly aching and "Ramona Proper" vs. "Country Mistakes".
We are all in this together. No one is against us. Everyone wants the same thing. To be happy, and A home to go home to.
Please, we are all tired, hungry, scared. We need answers, rest. But what we need most ... is each other.
does anyone know about houses on pine way and or the house on rancho santa teresa
Carlin Street. I live off of Montecito and I don't believe any of the "acres" burned.
600 block of Hansen, I don't know as haven't been down there, but I know Griffith had some fire. I will try to check.
as we return to our community in the coming days, i implore those of us that luckily escaped a personal tragedy to offer help to our neighbors. if you have the space - a spare room, an rv, a campsite, use this site's and/or another's to share that with our less-lucky neighbors. on the home page here, there is link to post availability of resources. we are in this together, and I hope we remember we have a special community that knows how to pull together and help one-another. i know this was my attraction to Ramona and hope we can continue in that tradition.
By the way most neighborhoods have a rebel and if a horse is there and you are not, this is Ramona....we are probably feeding it. If you are concerned, maybe you were off the hill and couldn't get in to get animals, I am sure someone here would be happy to check or we will ask one of the numerous officers to check for you.
I am so glad this forum is here! My husband and I are still here in Ramona. Thankfully so. Many of our friends evacuated as they were told to on Sunday night expecting it to be for a day or two. We are feeding some of their horses and giving updates on their homes. For the person concerned about Handlebar Lane, we are on feeding at Vorhees, and Handlebar seems just fine. No electricity though, fire ran on the North side on the runway and didn't make it to the grasslands on this end. For Haverford and Elm, the nursery is wiped out, some houses on the bend of Pamo, barns and outbuildings on Haverford and Elm that had some beatiful boats and tractors are gone but the houses seem to be in tact. Fire went through the brushy middle of the ball fields and destroyed some houses further up on Elm. It is definitly heart wrenching to see what has happened.
Hi All, if you are tired and frustrated of being kept out in the dark for this long on when we can come back home, and if there even is a home to come back to, then maybe we can all put some heat under our elected officials to help mobilize more attention to Ramona, and hopefuly help resolve our situation sooner than later.
Please take the time to e-mail Diane Jacob, Second District Supervisor; and ask her to please have her team give us more concreate information on what has happend in Ramona, what homes have been lost, and an ETA on when we will be able to return to Ramona.
Here is the link to her site: http://www.co.san-diego.ca.us/cnty/bos/sup2/index.html
See to it that her office personnaly contacts the Ramona Sentinel and KOGO 600 to spread the news. I think that 30,000+ displaced Ramona citizens deserve at least that much.
Thanks,
Jaime Hernandez
Ramona resident
As Sherer's said, most neighborhoods have a rebel and thank God for them!! Some areas have set up neighborhood command post because the looters know that Ramona is empty. Everyone is watching out for each other. My husband and others were out Sunday night helping to rescue horses. People where walking their horses out or tying them to their trucks to get them out of harms way. Some horses slipped on the pavement and became injured. bloody and scared and people with empty trailers came to their aid. My husband was exhausted and covered in ash and a guy in a toy hauler offered him some water. Ramona is a community like no other and we should be very proud. Stan Miller on TV said that "Ramonan's are a hearty breed" We are....to say the least!
Sad to see the lack of coverage that the media is providing to the community of Ramona. I was watching Channel 8 earlier and they shown an aerial shot of Ramona from there chopper. And the funny thing was there was no fire near Ramona nor there was any smoke. So why not allow the people to get back to there homes?
I never knew that Rancho Bernardo was more important than the Ramona Community. Whatever news outlet you turn to they always have Rancho Bernado as there number #1. But yet Ramona has suffered as equal or worst than RB.
Have been looking for info everywhere. Thank you Sentinel. Sorry to also recommend another paper's site, but this thread is very helpful. : http://forum.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=79191
Has 18 pages of detailed info on Ramona, including destroyed houses and safe areas.
To Dan and Denise, Can't get thru on your cell phones, don't have your e-mail. We are at my Mom's. Call me. If we still have a house, our whole family wants your whole family to come stay with us as long as you need to. So sorry and so worried about you. Hugs and love to all. Mary and Chris
Does anyone know when are we going to be allowed to go back to our homes
Is there a fire in old julian highway and sd country estates right now
Is there anyone with info regarding the 1600 block of Cedar st(by the airport)? And also anyone know if the Sossoman's Berry Farm had damage? it is on Sutherland dam rd and 78
Any word when people are going to be allowed to be back in Ramona?
Diane Schoepp
I have an Uncle and cousins (the O'Learys and Chesleys) in San Diego Country Estates and haven't been able to get a hold of them. Can anyone tell me if that area was spared? They live on Hampson Place...
We here in Portland are thinking of all of you in Ramona. Please let us know if we can help you in any way.
Does anyone know anything about the Mobil home park on Black Canyon. Have a friend that lives alone and has no family that lived there and can't locate her. Where did they evacuate those people to???
Teresa
My Dad was able to get to Ramona yesterday, hoping he could stay with his ice chest. He said no way. The amount of ash and soot in the house is amazing and everything was closed up. Bedding, floors, walls, couches etc. No where to sit. You need water and elec. for laundry. All food in freezers and fridges need to be disposed of.
Our neighbor who stayed during the fire said it isn't the fire that is the issue with getting back. It's the water. It us unsafe and for all of us to return without the system being up could cause a major health issue.
However, I DO wish they would tell us that on the news. Most folks I know just want information. NOT having information is worse than knowing.
Can anyone who is still in town get the word the Sheriffs Dept? That may help get the ball rolling.
Donna and Tod Savage
Rutherford Road/SDCE
To answer your question about the mobile home park on Black Canyon, I have a friend who lives there in a manufactured home and I'm so sorry to say her's was a loss... last night on TV they showed an area called Oak Tree Ranch along Magnolia which suffered 54 losses, but there were some homes still there. We are still in town and I have been trying to get around to let friends know about their homes, its hard though with roadblocks etc. The water situation is tough, but I was raised by my grandparents who lived thru the war in England and this is nothing compared to that. Its hard though coz I just want to see my neighbors again and welcome everyone home!!
Sentinel, thank you so much for the updates, everyone here is right, Ramona got shafted again newswise...you are the best source for up to date info!!!
Take care everyone.... we will all be together again soon in our hometown!!
Lisa R, thanks for the update on Handlebar.
I don't think we need to yell at the water district. How about the people who left their sprinklers on that drain the reserves, that and the pump station are reasons why we are in the current situation of still being evacuated.
I am curious as to which area of town left their sprinklers on? I have a guess but will keep it to myself.
So you want to yell, yell at those who left to the water on.....
I know you mean the Estates.... I live in Ryland and for what its worth, didn't leave sprinklers on!!
To concerned friend,
I heard 2 days ago through the Ramona Lutheran Church network that the Sossaman's home and berry farm is OK.
I understand this is a hard time for everyone. Some people are with out a home, some people have a home but want to come home and some people are just not sure. We have to keep in mind that it is a hard time for everyone and we need to take our frustrations and put it to positive energy. Comfort the person next to you, be thankful you are with your family and SAFE. If people left their sprinkler on..good for them, it is one more person that will have a house to come home to. I believe their would have been water problems anyway. What's done is done and now we have to move forward. We can't gripe about what should have happened or shouldnt have happened. Today is a new day and we are safe! Be thankful for life and get ready to help those in need who lost their home...but not their life! We need to remember that there is a lot of emotional exhaustion, physical exhaustion and mental exhaustion. We can't let that bring more anger to the situation than already is. This is time to come together and be strong and understanding. Not everything happens the way we want it to or in the amount of time we want it to happen. Please do not forget to thank those who have saved our homes, kept us safe, and that are working non stop to keep others safe. Their families are worried too. Thank you for all the updates. God Bless everyone who is involved in this disaster.
Does anyone know about the homes on Weekend Villa Road?
Weekend Villa is fine, all the homes in that area went untouched.
Thank you for the word on Weekend Villa!
I guess we all handle helplessness and little information differently. Some have to vent in a public forum, some look for the best in the situation with gratitude, others keep it to passing along info.
Whatever...
We probably just shouldn't take the venting personally. It's just their way of dealing with a crisis, however, I don't see it adding anything of value to the situation. Just ignore the venting if it bugs you. It's not directed at you. People venting like that will likely not respond to someone admonishing them anyway. Better they take it out on bloggers than people in person.
Patience is a virtue-
For those of you bashing the police at the barricades - it's not their fault - they are working 12 on/12 off, and not all of them are able to return to their homes either.
For those of you insisting they let you in because you have a well for water - there is no way you can prove that to the officers at the barricades, and for some homes the electricity is out and your well won't work anyway.
No water for homes equals no water for fire hydrants too.
For those of you sleeping in your cars or on the floor of a friends home - the firefighters all over the county would pay dearly for that nice seat, food and sleep.
For those of you evacuated and impatient to get back to Ramona - be thankful you have a shower!
For those of you still in Ramona - check where you can and let's get a list going of homes that are gone or areas that are untouched. Obviously there are areas that we can not get to - Old Julian Hwy, Oak Tree Ranch are two areas that are blocked off completely.
I know that NO homes in the Country Estates or Ryland were burned.
I know it must be frustrating beyond belief, especially the unknown, but there are good reasons you are not being let back in. Patience - please be patient and remember the people you are bashing are only doing their jobs so that you are safe.
God bless -
Patty
there is a lot of information in this blog about the questions you are asking. Read through or click edit on your toolbar and click find on this page to do word searches on street names or the word water, or SDG&E to find earlier blogs about these subjects.
there is an accurate blog on the water situation and safety concerns if you search the word "water". We are still here. Miss you all :)
Regarding the water district not being at fault: From the media reports its not clear whether or not there is a backup power source (i.e. diesel generator) at the pumping station that lost power. We do occasionally lose power up here in goatroper country. A backup power source would have prevented this flap.
Regarding sprinklers: Gotta believe most of the contents of the district's water storage tanks passed through 2-1/2" fire hoses as opposed to 3/4" sprinkler piping.
Has anyone heard news about Mr. and Mrs. Corcoran or Corcoran Ranch Apple Orchard? Apparently the two dead bodies were found off Highland Valley Rd., where the orchard is located.
Also, any news on Copper Meadows equestrian center on Montecito rd. in Ramona? This fire seems to be targeting horse facilities.
Our problem with giving exact addresses is that many homes in Ramona had a barely visable address before. if the house is not there anymore and there are no address markers, it is hard to give an exact address. We are trying to get you the info here is some released by county:
Destroyed homes in unincorporated San Diego County
Destroyed homes in unincorporated San Diego County as of Wednesday afternoon, according to county officials:
Witch Creek fire:
Ramona:
248 Magnolia
354 Magnolia
548 Magnolia
606 Magnolia
1029 Olive Ave.
111 Penn
1118 Magnolia
W 1210 Magnolia
1238 Magnolia
1200 Magnolia
204 Rancho del Ladera
835 Magnolia Heights Road, Apt. B
856 Schoolhouse Road
here is the list of destroyed homes from the Sentinal:
Magnolia
248 Magnolia
354 Magnolia
548 Magnolia
606 Magnolia
1118 Magnolia
1200 Magnolia
1210 Magnolia
1238 Magnolia
Penn
111 Penn
Olive Avenue
1029 Olive
Magnolia Heights Road
835 Magnolia Heights Road
Rancho del Ladera
204 Rancho del Ladera
Schoolhouse Road
856 Schoolhouse Road
Horizon View Drive
19254 Horizon View Drive
Washington Street
428 Washington Street
Pile Street
448 Pile Street
534 Pile Street
744 Pile Street
918 Pile Street
526 Pile Street
COPPER MEADOWS IS JUST FINE. We live off Montecito and are still here :)
Oak Creek Ranch on Black Canyon Road has lost 54 homes. All of phase 1 and 3 homes in phase 2. Phase 3 is untouched.
Hey, thanks for the update on Copper. I kept yelling at the t.v. when they were showing the airport--as if some way that could get them to pan around and show the barns!
Mindi Briese asks,
Can someone let us know how the Mt. Woodson area fared, specifically on the Poway side of the hiking trail and across the street in Dos Picos park?
Thanks!
Is there any information on Mountain Boulder Heights or Ocean Vista Way at the end of Pine and Haverford?
Yesterday (Wed) we had to treck out to Sutherland Dam Rd to feed 8 horses, 5 pigs & a cow that had to be left w/out water. The Arabian Ranch on the corner of 78 & Sutherland Dam Rd was okay when we left at 11:30am.
Sossaman's berry farm was also Ok. There was burned terrain everywhere but the structures at Sossaman's looked fine.
Rancho Santa Theresa was not accessable. The internal roads in that area were not passable. Lots of debris and down lines. The area we could see from Hwy 78 was very burned. We have great concerns about Santa Theresa.
The old campground, Camelot, lost their store & office. There were some burned RVs. There were also several RVs that looked occupied. Perhaps evacuees are now staying there?
Out the other direction, we were as far as Peace Valley Rd. the first several homes on Peace Valley were fine. We didn't go up very far from the Hwy67 side.
Air Mail Lane an the 67 side also looked fine.
All of Ramona Street is fine and so is all of Boundary. The hill across from the school - Hanson Way, is all OK.
Wellfield Park structures looked fine. All ball fields looked ok. the vegitation in the creekbed was burned. There was some sort of commercial buidling up at the top, near Famous Ramona Water(not Ramona Municipal Water) That was burned to the ground. No damage to those rock houses next door.
I haven't been out to the Estates but have asked a neighbor who has. He says parts he's seen look fine. I particularly asked about Ryland. All is ok based on his observation. Fire came very close.
Hope this is helpful to some.
D.Perfect
I am so sorry to say that a few homes on Ocean View are gone. My Dad lives in the house right below them on Los Altos De Cerro. I am sorry.
Going up to Mountian View Community Church right now to unload trucks of blankets, cots, water, supplies etc. so that we have emergency supplies for any of you who have lost homes when you arrive. Anyone still in Ramona who want to help unload, feed people or just visit and have a cup of coffee is welcome to drop by :) MVCC is being manned 24/7
Cedar by the airport is fine. Not sure about the other side.
Does anyone know how Creek Hollow fared? It is the very large horse facility about 6 mi down Old Julian Hwy. I know that area was hit hard.
I swear the CHP have no idea what they are saying. This last officer states "A mandatory Evacuation is back in force for the area between Willows and San Vicente Rd" First off when did the evacuation come off? Secondly, she states that the area between San vicente and Willows is Pine Valley? So do I assume she just got the area wrong and the fire is in that area or what?
Does anyone have information on Salida del Sol or 24620 Rancho Santa Teresa? I moved from Ramona a year ago and my prayers are with all of you.
Thank you
CHP Are talking about Wildcat Canyon Rd. Wintergarden? or that street Circle K is on in Lakeside (is that Willows) up to San Vicente Rd.
I would also like to get news of the Corcorans, and also the Brixeys, farther down Highland Valley Rd. Thank you all for the information. Also thank you Col(?) Blackledge for the common sense statements about the evacuations and the timing of the return.
does anyone know if the grocery stores have food supplies like milk and water or are they empty?
We bought milk yesterday at Stater Bros. The water is running very thin. Not sure what Albertsons or CVS has. There were fruit and veggies, but were out of fresh meat. I think they had chicken though.
As of yesterday We saw grocery store trucks were let through and unloading. They will let Fuel Trucks and Feed trucks through the barricades from what I have seen on CHP cad site. I think they are doing a good job trying to get fresh food, running water and Electricity here for everyone so that we are ready when everyone gets back.
scheres, I'll follow up on the wildcat situation. If there is a 2nd wildcat that would explain a lot.
thanks for the info on the food situation
as long as la cocina is open when I return then everything is ok.
as long as la cocina is open when I return then everything is ok.
cindy e said
My husband & I began our married life running the Western Center at San Diego Country Estates; altho we moved from Ramona in '97 & out of So CA in '02 [currently live in Central CA], we return every October for the SDCFA farrier competition/clinic in Lakeside & we still have many friends in Ramona & SD County.
While it has been frightening, shocking & all those other words [that still come nowhere close to describing what all of you are experiencing down there], we are thankful for the coverage & info from Ramona Sentinel, SignOnSanDiego, & TV. And yes, we would like to hear more specifics re: Ramona, Fallbrook, etc--why not direct comments to the media--turn your efforts there.
There are some people we have heard from/about [all OK, tho some have suffered some loss], but we've heard nothing about the San Diego Country EStates & still have several friends out there. Does anyone know about that area? The lists I've seen have no addresses from that area.
Take heart, people of Ramona & appreciate all that's been done to get you to safety. Many people have fought long & hard to keep your community from being obliterated. Now that the peak of panic & fright are [probably] past, don't turn on one another or start looking for wrong. Use that anger/frustration/impatience to help each other & bring good out of this terrible time.
Houses off Weekend Villa are fine, as well as N. Ramona St and La Brea, also near Mt. Woodson to those that inquired.
I just drove to the bottom of the hill on 78 into the San Pasqual Valley and got turned around. The houses that you can see from 78 on Weekend Villa are all stil there but as you get further down the hill alot more houses are lost but there are still many houses standing! Good luck!
Thanks to the Sentinal and the people using this blog constructively. While it is great to have a place to vent, what we really need is information. For those of us that went through the Cedar Fire, there is a huge improvement in how this situation has been handled.
I am thankful for those that chose to stay and keep us informed I would be equally thankful if those of us that left remain patient so that we can all return to a safe, secure situation.
There is no point wasting energy throwing stones at our neighbors and officals. We need to use our energy for positive efforts and thoughts and remain the proud, strong Ramona Family we have always been.
I love Ramona and can't wait to get home, but I will wait until we are told it is safe to return.
Not a refugee.. CH
Country Estates has NO homes lost.
This is Brian L. and I'm in SD Country Estates on the very east end of Ramona Oaks with very little to almost no damage here. Old Julian Hwy is heavily damaged. My cellphone needs a recharge so I'm limited on more information. God Bless All.
cindy e said
Thanks for the info re: Country Estates. Does anyone have any info re: the Mussey Grade area?
does anyone know what the latest situation is about when we will be getting the water up and running?
What of the camel ranch? Did they get them out?
I did not leave and am near Mussey
grand on a hill all looks good at this end of town.
Airmail lane looks like it had no fires.
Horse ranch at 67 & Mussey has alot of evacuated horse there.
signed "still here in Ramona"
All the tack rooms and a hay shed as well as the house (residence) at Creek Hollow burned down. All the horses are fine.
Mu husband is a firefighter and he said the Camel Ranch is fine. It's kind of funny, but so many people have been asking about the camel ranch!
Mr. and Mrs. Corcoran are fine, however their home is gone.
Does anybody know if the Ramona Mobile Park at 2030 Black Canyon road survived the fire? This is a senior mobile park.
Thanks,
Richard
Can anyone tell me about Bob and Linda Denny. I know the Womens Recovery Home is gone, but no word on Bob and Linda. Also Greg Roderick and his wife.
Thanks for any info, and God Bless All. Marla
HEY IS MOLLY MALONES BAR IN RAMONA STILL STANDING...CUZ IM DEFINETLY GONNA NEED A DRINK AFTER THIS IS ALL OVER!...LOL JUST A LITTLE HUMOR TO LIGHTEN THE MOOD!
Props to Cheers remaining open the whole time. One thing is for sure, next time a evacuation notice goes out I will not leave until the flames are at my doorstep.
Your best bet for latest up-to-date info to COME HOME is:
LOcal Sheriff DEPT in RAMONA is
760 789-1200.
Call them to find out when we can come home. They'll be the best direct source so far. The politicians, well...are politicians! They're always good for a story.
Im the President of Pop Warner, I have coaches and players that have been hit by this fire. I have other Pop Warner associations in San Diego trying to give my supplies for my players and coaches that have been affected. If you know anyone involved with Pop Warner that needs assistance please have them contact me. Hopefully I cant get back in tonite so I can receive these items.
thanks
Ben Narramore
KINDA CURIOUS IF THERE IS ANY REPORT ON THE LOOTING GOING ON IN RAMONA....IS THERE A LIST OF PLACES THEY HAVE CAUGHT PEOPLE LOOTING
called that number you just listed. It got me to a dispatcher for all of San Diego, they didn't have any info.
I would like to know about the homes in town...specifically H Street & 10th. I am thankful that my family and our pets are safe. We have been in Costa Mesa at a hotel since Monday and plan to return today to the San Diego area....hopefully the water situation will be corrected soon and all can return. If anyone is in the town itself and knows about the neighborhood near Ramona Elementary School, any information you can give us is appreciated. God bless Ramona!
Thank you Ramona Sentinel for providing this way to communicate with our neighbors.
Shirley Rath
In regards to looting they busted two 18 year olds looting Beer from a house and that has been it.
I WONDER HOW MANY FIRE FIGHTERS AND BURN VICTIMS THERE WILL BE THIS HOLLOWEEN!..LOL..
WELL I DEFINETLY HAD BEER IN MY HOUSE...HOPEFULLY IT WASNT MINE...BUT AT LEAST THE NATIONAL GUARD IS WORKING TO KEEP OUR HOMES SAFE AND THANKS FOR THE INFO
The 10th and H area of town is fine!
FOR ALL MILITARY MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN RAMONA...32ND STREET IS AVAILABLE FOR HELP FOR EVACUEES AND NAVAL BASE IN PT LOMA ALSO HAS BERTHINGS AVAILABLE
Good Morning Ramona family,
I found this site searching for information on my family which I have since found are safe and sound with all horses, dogs and a bird in tow, and fortunately a home to return to. As I read these comments I am warmed not only by the caring for one another but by the many mentions of the animals and the selfless focus on ensuring the health and safety of these lives. Pets large and small are precious gifts that are entrusted to humans. The warm community you have is evident in the warmth and care given to protecting all life. Congratulations and God Bless
Thank you so much for the information on H St and 10th.
Keyser Road,
I just want to thank everyone for their sleepless efforts (fire fighters, SDG&E, water authorities). We did not evacuate and have been fairly safe through this whole ordeal....We still have no water, but I know that the water authority is doing the best they can to get us back on line...my prayers go out to all of you that lost your homes. We have seen many acts of kindness, everyone helping!!! Thank you Ramona Sentinel for providing us this forum, it's been a great deal of help!
It was mentioned that two cabins on Oakbridge and the owners house were lost. Was the owners house on
Chatty Lane? I know thats where the director of the camp lived and was wondering if thats the house that was lost.
Donna and Todd on Rutherford,
We went by there yesterday to pick up some hay from a friend's house (we have her horses), don't know if you know or not, but all the houses in that area are fine, nothing burned!! Hope you get home soon!!
Keyser Road
I THINK AFTER THIS FIRE DESASTER IS GONE..WE ARE GONNA HAVE A NEW PROBLEM...THE BRUSH AND TREES THAT KEPT THE GROUND STABLE IS GONE...WHEN THE RAIN COMES WE MAY HAVE LANDSLIDES
What is the air quality like in San Diego now? We evacuated Ramona and went to Miramar but ended up leaving for ventura county b/c we have a small baby. We'd like to return to the San Diego area but not until we think it's safe for our 6 month old.
Also does anybody know if the 5 is back open?
I HEARD THE 5 IS BACK OPEN...THEY SAID THE AIR QUALITY IN SAN DIEGO WILL PROBABLY BE BAD FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK OR MORE.
The 5 is now open in all directions. And a good portiof of the smoke has actually traveled North and out to the ocean but we do expect the smoke out above the ocean to return with the new off shore winds.
Family home on Tartan Terrace (off Highlander, off Highland Valley). Last report, house OK. Anyone know if that is still the case???? All the activity on Mt Woodson leaves us wondering. Looks like lots of damage on Magnolia. Uncle stayed (house at top of Ramona Real). Was able to save his own house and two others. Talk about bravery & unselfishness! Thanks to all. Any little info is a BIG help!!!!
There is a lot of information on this site as well:
http://forum.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?p=2858129#post2858129
So sorry to hear about the Corcorans' house. So was my son Daniel, who spent several good years at Corcoran Ranch School. Glad everyone is all right. --Jane T.
I know they are still not letting anyone in but I saw somewhere that they are letting some areas in Ramona today, can you confirm that and if so what areas?
I am reading a lot of frustration from people who want to come back. I know it is comforting to be home and you want to start living normal again. But, coming back up to Ramona will not be normal. I am up here now taking care of my Dad who just had surgery and refuses to leave. There is NO WATER to be used. The water district is now turning of lines of people who do have water. The only people who have water are the ones with power and a well. Plus, the water quality s really bad. Those who do have water are on a boil alert. Coming home is not a good idea now. My prayers are with everyone who is down the hill, but please be pateint and let them get a working town in order first...
Reading this blog today has been so helpful and I really appreciate everyone's point of you and respect all who have been effected. My thoughts and prayers are with those who have suffered a loss. My husband and I are among the lucky who have not had damage done. (friend inspected our house and reported this to us).
I'm utterly frustrated at the delay in allowing us back into Ramona though. This is no longer due to the threat of fire. I'm sorry - you don't evacuate a community of 36,000 people because of a water shortage. It's time to open the road and let us back. This is over kill and I don't think it's sending a smart message. My feelings at this point are - if there's an evacuation again, I won't be leaving!
Katie, I saw exactly what you are talking about. If you look farther down on that article on the ramona sentinel it's stating the exact opposite, where one fire Cpt. says "I doubt anyone gets back into Ramona today". I don't really know what to believe anymore. Even the people at the other line of 211 were saying it's kind of ridiculous and they have a hard time relaying information they receive because they hear so much other stuff which contradicts it. Your best bet to keep up on what is happening in regards to repopulation is going to be www.sdcountyemergency.com
This is a link to an updated list if homes destroyed or damaged by the fire:
http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/dplu/docs/cosd_confirmed_damage_assessments.pdf
The incompetence of Ramona Water District for not being prepared with backup systems and spare generators is to blame for having to be displaced for an additional minimum of 48 hrs. Living in a high fire area, this is unconscionable and heads should roll. I am lucky to have found a decent hotel, but this lack of sufficient emergency preparedness is beyond words. We are adults and should be allowed home regardless if we have water. We know how to use bottled water. There are numerous areas in San Diego that have water pipe breaks and are forced to live without water for a few days. I would much prefer being in my own home and having to rely on bottled water, than living out of a hotel. LET US BACK HOME NOW!!!
I will never evacuate again either.
Kelly
kfmb.com reports that the 5 is still closed at the scale station but that could just be the station itself. also on that site there is an air quality advisory of moderate to hazardous but ramona is not listed as hazardous. hope it helps.
Living on bottled drinking water is fine, but not being able to flush toilets for 5 people and not showering for several days is not good. At least you can wash your face, take a shower, and flush your toilets...Not to mention the free water is running out and Stater Bros is selling at the regular price which can get expensive...
Is Highland Valley open between Pomerado and Green Valley Truck Trail? thanks
It's so easy for the people who defied the mandatory evacuation order to put some kind of positive spin on us being homeless right now. You are not being blocked from going to YOUR HOME!
I really don't see how they can keep us out of our homes. I am anxious to just go run a road block.
So, you would rather let 30,000+ people back in to town so that they can all complain about not having water. If you let that many people in the recovery will take longer. Let them do there jobs and you will get back to normal quicker...And, no I haven't been home, there was no water so we havent been home...So, I may not be down the hill, but we havent been home either...
Wanted to let you know that I heard Bob and Linda Dennys home was lost.
Oh my God no!!!! Linda is my sister in law, and Bob her husband. Where did you here their home was lost??? Or are you talking about the Womens Recovery Home???
The first house on the left side of Spring Wagon is gone. The house on the corner of Vista Ramona and Old Julian (NE corner)is alos gone. Sorry.
Looking for info on friends:
Katy Cain Black Canyon
Tim & Laura Richardson Quest Road
Gary payne Family Ceder
Janet Tulloch Hwy 78
Mike & Heather Smith 10th st
Sandy Wolf family @ 340 Pile
and also info on the house at 855 Brightside Way.
Lived in ramona 7 yrs ago still think of it as home, thoughts and prayers are with you Ramona, take it one day at a time.
People staying back and "defying" the mandatory evacuation made a personal choice! Don't knoch them! During the Cedar fire we stayed back and were able to save 5 homes on our street! Don't feel anger fell grateful because I've heard many stories of houses saved because of these "bad" people!
For all those of you who are cmoplaining about the MANDATORY evacuation are being irrational right now. All us evacuatees are tired and want to go home. If they let us back in now, that is 30,000 people who are going to start using water and that will worsen the situation. People who did go back a couple days ago were WASHING their cars and houses. THat is so inconciderate. Bottom line people won't listen to the officials on the water problem and they know that. IT's BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN TO BE SORRY. The Cedar Fires came back thru Ramona twice and it could happen again and DID last night around Old Julian HWY. Now we have to worry about the fire in San Ysabel area coming to Ramona.
LET THE FIRE FIGHTERS AND OFFICIALS DO THEIR JOBS< LISTEN AND RESPECT THEM AND THEIR DECISIONS.
Those of you who ar BITCHING about not ever evacuating agin are IDOTS and much not have any intelligence. Because all they are doing is trying to save lives and prepare foir the worse.
The official just can't win either way. If they didn't evacuate Ramona you would be bitching and they DID and you are bitching.
Lets all hang in there, please. We all want to go home those of us who still have one. And for those who do not I'm so sorry, but life does go on and new memories will be made.
It will only get better with all this disaster preparedness. It is 100% better than the Cedar fires
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